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Olympic Show Discipline Information Apr 25, 2020 14:20:56 GMT -5

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Post by Jewellz on Apr 25, 2020 14:20:56 GMT -5

Hello fellow show horse owners! Here is everything you'll need to know about showing horses in the qualifying rounds and in the Olympics. If you read through all of this and have any questions or concerns, please post here or PM a mod or admin!

If you're looking for information about racing, that's in another thread!

How to make it to the Olympics

A world tour event will be starting soon (May 2nd, to be exact) which will consist of five stops. There will be qualifying rounds for all of the Olympic disciplines at each of the five stops. The top horses in each discipline's qualifying round will earn a spot in the final Olympic shows. After our stops around the world, all of the horses that qualified will make their way to Tokyo, Japan in June!

If you're wondering just exactly where we're going and when we'll be there, check out this thread!

The Olympic shows are by invitation only. Only horses that are qualified may enter. At all of the world tour stops, the TOP 4 horses placed in each discipline will qualify to compete in the Olympic show for that discipline. Since there are five stops in our tour, that means there will be 20 horses competing in each discipline in the Olympics. While each qualifying show will limit the number of entries to 4 per person, the final Olympic shows will not have a per person limit. This is so that, by the time we near the end of the tour, there are still enough non-qualified horses left to participate in the qualifying rounds.

PLEASE NOTE: NONE of the qualifying rounds reward show points or stats (racing is different). This is so that Champion and Grand Champion horses may compete. The Olympics are about finding the best of the best, so pick some of your top horses to compete with!

ADDITIONAL NOTE: All horses who won medals in 2016 are disqualified from competing again in any discipline they won a medal in last time. Check out this thread of all the 2016 medalists!

Choose a country...

Remember, if your horse qualifies for an Olympic discipline at any of the stops, you may choose a country (from the continent or region that it qualified in) that it will represent in the Olympics! This just adds a little flavor and makes it feel more like a worldwide event. If you are wondering what countries are included in the stop or just want some inspiration, check out this list!

If your horse qualifies, please post in the finished show or PM a mod or admin to let them know which country you've chosen for your horse. If you don't pick a country after your horse qualifies, it will be assigned a random one before the Olympic shows open.

The Olympic disciplines

Here on Seeing Stars, we take some liberty when adjusting real-world events to fit the forum and its members. So, our Olympic Games include many more disciplines instead of just Dressage, Three-Day Eventing, and Show Jumping. This year we are excited to open up three new disciplines which were not included last time: Barrel Racing, Reining, and Western Pleasure! The other disciplines include: Halter, In-Hand, Dressage, Eventing, Novice Eventing, Show Jumping, and Show Hunters.

NOTE: MANY of the disciplines have extra requirements or will be judged differently than usual. Please make sure to read the post below for the disciplines you're interested in, which will detail what is different from the regular everyday disciplines you're used to.

The following schedule will ideally be what happens. We can't tell the future, but we'll do our best to stick to it and stay on course!

NOTE: While there is one official judge/host for each discipline at all of the stops, additional judges can and will contribute scores as well, though it is not a set requirement. However, ALL final Olympic shows must be judged by at least two people. If you want more information about how the disciplines are judged, there will be a post below with all of that information.

North America: to be judged May 9th and 10th
Halter: Jewellz
In-Hand: Aragorn
Dressage: Jewellz
Eventing: Jewellz
Novice Eventing: Jewellz
Show Jumping: Neco
Show Hunters: Neco
Barrel Racing: Aragorn
Reining: Aragorn
Western Pleasure: Neco

South & Central America: to be judged May 16th & 17th
Halter: Jewellz
In-Hand: Jewellz
Dressage: Aragorn
Eventing: Jewellz
Novice Eventing: Jewellz
Show Jumping: Neco
Show Hunters: Neco
Barrel Racing: Jewellz
Reining: Aragorn
Western Pleasure: Neco

Europe: to be judged May 23rd & 24th
Halter: Angora
In-Hand: Aragorn
Dressage: Aragorn
Eventing: Neco
Novice Eventing: Jewellz
Show Jumping: Jewellz
Show Hunters: Jewellz
Barrel Racing: Neco
Reining: Jewellz
Western Pleasure: Neco

Australia: to be judged May 30th & 31st
Halter: Angora
In-Hand: Aragorn
Dressage: Jewellz
Eventing: Jewellz
Novice Eventing: Neco
Show Jumping: Jewellz
Show Hunters: Neco
Barrel Racing: Aragorn
Reining: Neco
Western Pleasure: Jewellz

Asia: to be judged June 6th & 7th
Halter: Jewellz
In-Hand: Jewellz
Dressage: Aragorn
Eventing: Jewellz
Novice Eventing: Jewellz
Show Jumping: Neco
Show Hunters: Neco
Barrel Racing: Neco
Reining: Aragorn
Western Pleasure: Aragorn

Olympics: opens June 12th, closes June 19th, to be judged by June 21st
Halter: Angora (with collaboration from Jewellz)
In-Hand: Jewellz (with collaboration possible from: Neco, Aragorn)
Dressage: Jewellz (with collaboration possible from: Neco, Aragorn)
Eventing: Jewellz (with collaboration from Neco)
Novice Eventing: Neco (with collaboration from Jewellz)
Show Jumping: Neco (with collaboration from Jewellz)
Show Hunters: Aragorn (with collaboration possible from: Jewellz, Neco)
Barrel Racing: Neco (with collaboration possible from: Jewellz, Aragorn)
Reining: Aragorn (with collaboration possible from: Jewellz, Neco)
Western Pleasure: Jewellz (with collaboration possible from: Neco, Aragorn)

Last Edit: Apr 26, 2020 17:08:56 GMT -5 by Jewellz

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Olympic Show Discipline Information Apr 25, 2020 14:58:47 GMT -5

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Post by Jewellz on Apr 25, 2020 14:58:47 GMT -5

Olympic Discipline Guides

NOTE: How the disciplines are judged is in the next post! This post is just to go over what's different with the entry forms or additional poses etc.

Barrel Racing
We will be trialing a new judging system of Barrel Racing for the Olympics and may implement it permanently if it goes well. However, the three poses required are still the same! There must be a gallop in, a barrel turn, and a gallop out. For how we will be judging, see the next post!

Dressage
This will be run a little differently than the regular Dressage discipline to make the poses worth more in the final scores. The qualifying rounds and the final show will require 3 different poses, which may be any of the following: halt, collected trot, extended trot, passage, canter, & piaffe, any other gaits will be DQ. It is up to the rider to choose which 3 poses best show off the abilities of the horse.
A show entry looks like this:

Show Name
Call Name

Eventing
Eventing will require the same poses as it does now, however, poses will be scrutinized more than usual. Judging information is in the next post! This show is for Preliminary and Intermediate level Eventers. Novice horses will be separate due to the stats being such a great difference. Due to the division, Eventing and Novice Eventing will both receive gold, silver, and bronze medals.

Novice Eventing
This show is for Novice level Eventing horses (even brand new eventers!) but is otherwise going to be run and judged the same as Eventing (above).

Halter
This show is a lot like our regular Advanced Halter, but the gait has been expanded to include more than just a canter. Each entry requires two poses: a level halt pose and a collected trot, extended trot, or canter - no other gaits are accepted!
A show entry looks like this:

Show Name
Call Name

In-Hand
This show is very close to our regular Advanced In-Hand. It requires a halt pose and either a collected or extended trot - no other gaits are accepted, a canter or anything else will be DQ! Both poses must be shown in a halter or bridle, preferably matching.
A show entry looks like this:

Show Name
Call Name

Reining
This show will require each entry to submit three poses, instead of the usual two. Entrants may choose to enter their choice of: two different canter/gallops (may not be the same pose twice, so either a canter and a gallop or two different types of gallops) and a reining specialty pose (spin, backup, sliding stop) OR one canter/gallop and two different reining specialty poses (spin, backup, sliding stop). It is up to the rider to choose which 3 poses best show off the abilities of the horse.
A show entry looks like this:

Show Name
Call Name
Canter/Gallop:

Choice of Reining pose (spin, backup or slide):

Additional canter/gallop or Reining pose:

Show Hunters
In case you're wondering, there's a slight name change from the usual "Hunter Under Saddle" because the second pose required is a jump and a HUS class is flat only, but a Show Hunters class does both under saddle and over fences.
This show is basically our regular Advanced Hunter Under Saddle. It requires a gait (walk, trot, or canter) and a jump pose - a take-off or landing pose is just as acceptable as the mid-jump. Tack is OPTIONAL on both poses. Editing such as shading/transparency/adding tack or rider is acceptable, however editing the actual pose is not allowed. Gallops and the piaffe are unacceptable gaits. Jump poses may only use a hoop for jumping and it must not be edited out, any other jumps are unacceptable.
A show entry looks like this:

Show Name
Call Name

Show Jumping
This show has the same requirements as Show Jumping does now, there must be a take-off, mid-jump, and landing pose for each entry, and all poses must use the hoop as a jump.

Western Pleasure
This show is basically our regular Advanced Western Pleasure. It requires two poses: a gait (any accepted gait except a gallop or piaffe) and a second pose that is either a halt or backup. Tack is OPTIONAL on both poses. Editing such as shading/transparency/adding tack or rider is acceptable, however editing the actual pose is not allowed.
A show entry looks like this:

Show Name
Call Name

Last Edit: May 3, 2020 19:46:56 GMT -5 by Jewellz

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Olympic Show Discipline Information Apr 25, 2020 15:31:53 GMT -5

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Post by Jewellz on Apr 25, 2020 15:31:53 GMT -5

Olympic Discipline Judging

NOTE: Please be sure to read the guides above first, that way, what is said here will make more sense!

Each Olympic qualifying round is hosted by one official judge, however, in order to allow the judges to fully participate in those rounds as well, it is possible that multiple judges may score each round once it is closed to help determine final placements. Final scores may be a collaboration of many judges! However, if there are dice rolls or other random factors determining placements, only the official judge oversees that to determine the final scores. The actual Olympic final shows will be scored by at least two judges.

Barrel Racing
For judging, a random base time (roll range 19-27) will be rolled for each entry, and one 6-sided dice will be rolled for each barrel (3). Any 6s rolled represent a knocked over barrel and add 2 seconds to the base time (3 knocked over barrels would be +6).
Then, each entry's poses are evaluated and scored. Poorly done poses may receive up to +2 seconds on the time, while very good poses may receive up to -2 seconds on the time. So, in total, a horse may earn +6 or -6 to their time, or anything in between (-2, 0, 3, etc.), based on all three of their poses.
Final scores = base time + any fallen barrels +/- seconds earned on poses
The horse with the lowest time wins. In the event of ties in final times, the horse that received more seconds subtracted due to its poses places higher. If both horses had the same seconds added or subtracted on their poses, then a knockout round will be held (an additional base time and 3 barrels will be rolled for each horse) including all horses that had ties (so, say 1st and 2nd and 4th and 5th were tying still, even after pose point consideration, all four horses would run again). The round is scored the same as the first, but final times are only compared between the two horses that were tied - 4th place can't jump up into 1st just because it had a much better knockout round than the horses that were tied for 1st & 2nd!

The rolls for each entry look like:

Show Name
Base time: U2c7WnXS19-27
Barrels: 1d6 1d6 1d6

Dressage
Each pose will be scored on a 0 - 10 basis (10 being perfect) and then the total of the pose points from the 3 poses will be multiplied by 2 (a perfect score being 60). There will be four 8-sided dice rolled, with the pose points added to the total of the dice rolls for the final percentage score. Regardless of the scores, there will be no advancing in levels in these shows! If there are any ties, the horse with the higher pose points places higher.*

The rolls for each entry look like:

Show Name: 4d8

Eventing
The difference from these shows and regular Eventing is that the poses will be judged! Each type of pose (Dressage, Cross-Country, and Show Jumping) will be ranked 1st - X (X being the # of entries). 1st place will receive X bonus points and count down from there. Each pose type is ranked and compared separately, for example, all Dressage poses are ranked 1 - X, then the Cross-Country poses, etc. The bonus points in all 3 categories of poses will be added together, and then that is the total amount of bonus points that that will be added to that entry's score once the rolls are completed. The rolls and stats are done the same as regular Eventing, 5d10 for each category.

The Dressage total is the total of the rolls plus Impulsion and Discipline stats.
The Cross-Country total is the total of the rolls that show 3 - 8 plus Agility and Stamina stats. Any 1s, 2s, 9s, and 10s do not count towards the total and are faults. 1s & 2s = 1 fault each occurrence, 9s & 10s = 2 faults each occurrence.
The Show Jumping total is the total of the rolls that show 3 - 8 plus Agility and Stamina stats. Any 1s, 2s, 9s, and 10s do not count towards the total and are faults. 1s & 2s = 1 fault each occurrence, 9s & 10s = 2 faults each occurrence.
All three category totals are summed and bonus points are added. The horse with the highest score wins. If there are any ties, the horse with the higher bonus points places higher.*

The rolls for each entry look like:

Show Name
Dressage: 5d10
Cross-Country: 1d10 1d10 1d10 1d10 1d10
Jumping: 1d10 1d10 1d10 1d10 1d10

Novice Eventing
This show is run and judged the same as Eventing (above).

Halter
The halt poses will be ranked 1st - X (X being the # of entries). 1st place receives X pose points and counts down from there. The gait poses will then be ranked the same way. The pose points from the halt and the gait will then be added together to determine final placements. The horse with the highest total of points wins. If there are any ties for final placements, the horse that ranked higher in the halt category will place higher.

In-Hand
All of the halt poses will be ranked 1st - X (X being the # of entries). 1st place receives X pose points and counts down from there. The gait poses will then be ranked the same way. The pose points from the halt and the gait will then be added together and divided by 2 to determine the final judge's scores. Then, each pose will be assigned a random amount of points from 1 - X (the same as we do In-Hand now) and those points get added to the judge's scores to determine the final placements in the show. If there are any ties, the horse with the higher judge's score total places higher.*

Reining
For judging, all of the entries' required canter/gallops will be ranked 1st - X (X being the # of entries). 1st receives 1 point while X receives X points (this is the reverse of the rest of the Olympic disciplines, but exactly how Reining is usually judged). Then all of the entries' required specialty Reining poses are ranked the same way, then the third poses (which may be a mixture of gallops, canters, and Reining poses) are also evaluated and ranked. The points each horse earned on each pose are totaled, and the horse with the lowest amount of points wins. If there are ties in the final points, the horse that ranked higher on the second pose (the Reining pose category) places higher.

Show Hunters
The gait poses are ranked 1st - X (X being the number of entries) with 1st place receiving X points and counting down from there. The same is done for the jump poses. The points from the gait and the jump are added together for each entry and divided by 2 for the final judge's scores. Then, each entry is randomly assigned points ranging from 1 - X (the same as HUS is now) and the total of the judge's scores and random points determines the final placements in the show. The horse with the highest amount of points wins. If there are any ties, the horse with the higher judge's score total places higher.*

Show Jumping
Each pose will be scored on a 0 - 10 basis (10 being perfect) and the pose points added together for each entry (30 being perfect across the board). Then, six 6-sided dice will be rolled for each entry. This determines how your horse performs in the show on that day. Any 1s mean that you hit the time limit, they count as a -1 for your score. Any 6s mean that you were too fast & careless and you knocked down a bar, they count as -2 to your score, any rolls from 2-5 don't mean anything. So, the pose points are totaled and then the dice are rolled, any 1s and 6s mean there are penalties that get subtracted from the pose points in order to determine the final scores and placements. The horse with the highest score wins. If there are any ties, the horse with the higher pose point total places higher.*

The rolls for each entry look like:

Show Name: 1d6 1d6 1d6 1d6 1d6 1d6

Western Pleasure
The gait poses are ranked 1st - X (X being the number of entries) with 1st place receiving X pts and counting down from there. The same is done for the second halt/backup poses. The points from the gait and the second poses are added together for each entry and divided by 2 for the final judge's scores. Then, each entry is randomly assigned points ranging from 1 - X (the same as WP is now) and the total of the judge's scores and random points determines the final placements in the show. The highest score wins. If there are any ties, the horse with the higher judge's score total places higher.*

*Any and all ties AFTER the bonus/pose/judge's points and scores are taken into account may be settled by rolling dice (a d9 for a decimal point addition) or by other random means such as random.org or flipping a coin.19-27·1d6·1d6·1d6·4d8·1d6·1d6·1d6·1d6·1d6·1d6·1d10·1d10·1d10·1d10·1d10·1d6·1d6·1d6·1d6·1d6·1d6

Last Edit: Apr 25, 2020 15:50:05 GMT -5 by Jewellz

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